How Kamala Gave California to the Cartels & the Psychopaths Ruling the Democrat Party

Trump won, which is a fantastic outcome, but it is still not too late for this to alert people who were foolish enough to vote for Kamala to the person she really is.

Chris Moritz was interviewed by Tucker Carlson a few days ago, and their discussion is truly jaw-dropping.

If you take the time to watch this, you will be astounded at how out of control the justice system is in California.

Transcript:

Tucker [00:00:00] I got to say, it is a little bit astounding to those of us from California to see a politician from that state run for president, because you in the back of your mind, you you wonder like when someone going to ask her about the state she’s from, which is like the greatest disaster in the history of the United States, probably Greece, disastrous since the fall of Rome, I would say went from the greatest place, I think it’s fair to say, on planet Earth. Yes, When I grew up in the 70s and 80s, 6070s and 80s to a place that people are fleeing. And so without, you know, blaming Kamala Harris for all of it, it’s not all her fault. But someone’s have to answer for that. You’ve just written a book on this. Bless you for doing that.

Chris Moritz [00:01:02] Why don’t we tape Aaron?

Tucker [00:01:03] Yeah, we’re. We’re live, baby. Yeah. My gosh. I know. Don’t worry.

Chris Moritz [00:01:08] Barry demoed.

Tucker [00:01:11] Fuck you, San Diego. Excuse me. So, as a San Diego. I’ve never forgotten that. So what? What happened to California?

Chris Moritz [00:01:22] Well, you know, there’s a lot of there’s a lot of reasons as to how we ended up in a one party state, how we ended up in a state of decrepitude and, frankly, with elements of criminality that are so depraved and savage and dark that they are really unseen outside of the worst conflict zones in the world. And that is characterized by, let’s say, for instance, the rise of child soldiers, juveniles committing a lot of crime, in fact, maybe driving the crime surge in the state. And certainly in Los Angeles, children, children as young as ten being recruited by gangs to commit armed robbery, hijackings and even murder.

Tucker [00:02:13] Okay. So now we’re just in Mexico. You’re basically doing worse.

Chris Moritz [00:02:16] Than Mexican.

Tucker [00:02:17] Worse than Mexico. So there are a million authors of this tragedy. But if you were to point to 2 or 3 big facts, big changes, big trends that created the dystopia you’re describing, what would they be?

Chris Moritz [00:02:32] Well, so there’s a legislative angle to this. And I think that’s a really, really important part of the history and the pathway to destruction. And that started well, that was influenced by a number of factors. Principally, there was a there was an important Supreme Court case in 2011 called Brown v Plata. And in this decision, which was A54 split, Kennedy was the deciding factor on the liberal side, wrote the opinion. It was determined that the California state prison system was in violation of the Eighth Amendment, which is cruel and unusual punishment. And this was owing to the fact that prisons were operating at 200% capacity at that time. And according to this ruling, California had to conform to a very arbitrary capacity ratio, or that was established by a federal bureaucracy of 137.5%. So, okay, so if you were at 137.5%, you were no longer in violation of the Eighth Amendment. So as a result of this ruling, California did have to find ways to comply and took a number of steps to do so. A number of laws that are discussed, but coinciding with with this ruling and going back further, is the emergence of the criminal justice reform movement, principally coming out of places like Stanford Law School and some particular individuals, like a gentleman named Mike Romano, who was able to influence the legislature and executive level officers in the state to embrace policies that were part of the criminal justice reform movement and principally dedicated to the idea of reducing the so-called crisis of mass incarceration. So this meant that there was a force coming from the Supreme Court that was motivating this and also ideological activist elements that pushed for these same reforms at the same time.

Tucker [00:04:55] So as we face ourselves, it’s the formulation that we should never thought about till now mass incarceration, which I don’t think any normal person would be in favor of mass incarceration. But that’s you’re only describing one side of the coin. The other way to describe the, you know, the crime wave that we’re living through, the results, I mean, that results in people going to prison. Yeah. No one thought to address crime.

Chris Moritz [00:05:18] Well. So California had up until, let’s say, 2011, one of the most stringent criminal justice systems in the entire country. We, of course, were the the the force behind the three strikes law. Yeah. And three strikes put a lot of bad people away for forever. But it had problems, too. To be to be honest like there were there were problems and there were reforms applied to it to reduce, you know, potential injustices. Right. And I. I support those But nevertheless three strikes and it’s and also the introduction of what are called enhancements. So special circumstance enhancements in which, let’s say you use a gun in a crime, you use a gun that adds ten years additionally to your conviction. If you use a gun and you shoot someone that’s 20 years, if you use a gun and kill someone, it’s life. So that’s an enhancement. If you’re a gang member and engage in, you know, whatever crime, gang enhancements would apply and those would add to the sentencing. These things were all eliminated and obliterated in big parts by directives that came from the so-called Soros Diaz, a progressive Diaz in 2020. But the dismantling, you know, started really following this Supreme Court case. So the first law there was a big problem and put us on this path was called AB 109. It’s called the Public Safety Realignment Act. And the idea was to reduce the the the number of prisoners in the state system. You would transfer so-called nonviolent, non-sexual, low risk offenders to county jails. There’s a problem, though. And the problem and the sort of poison pill within it was the issue of what classified, nonviolent, nonsexual, low risk offenders. Because under a B, 1 or 9, the only offense that would be considered was the last offense for which you were convicted. So in other words, inmates with long and violent criminal histories who happen to be in jail in state prison because of a nonviolent offense, were eligible for this system and they were transferred out. 27,000. It didn’t even. Even with that, we still didn’t meet the capacity threshold of 137.5. But this was one of the steps to do so. Here’s the other issue.

Tucker [00:08:26] Think of building more prisons.

Chris Moritz [00:08:29] Well, you know, we don’t have the money.

Tucker [00:08:31] You can’t build.

Chris Moritz [00:08:32] California was bankrupt at that time. Yeah, right. And actually, like Jerry Brown, to his credit, like did did a lot and like earnestly to try and like straighten the you know that. Right. The ship of California’s fiscal situation. But these kinds of policies specific to jailing were totally ill conceived. And so with maybe 1 or 9, all these prisoners get go into county jails, but the county jails are of the resources to to to house them. They don’t have the funds to staff them. And so the outcome is that many are just released into the communities. Kamala Harris is elected attorney general in 2010, narrowly beating Steve Cooley, who is the probably the last great district attorney of Los Angeles, a Republican, by the way. He’s the only he’s the only Republican she’s ever run against other than Trump. And she lost to him. He he lost to her by just a few thousand votes, which just this is kind of an interesting coda, is that there were also kind of odd circumstances around that election. Steve was ahead. And then, you know, kind of in 2020 fashion, there was a surge of her votes. But anyway, she’s elected to California attorney general in 2010, and her first big task is administering AB 109, because as the head of the California Justice Department, she really has the most, you know, highest level of presence in for sure understanding the budgetary constraints of the counties and and what everyone was warning her, including the California District Attorney’s Association, police unions, that this law was going to be a big problem and she supported it. She did nothing to try and like bring more resources to these county jails. And this is a theme we’ll see over and over again in California, where the state has some failures, some bureaucratic, you know, incompetency or shortfall in the budget or some issue. And the and the the the the strategy in Sacramento is to simply move that problem shifted to localities, to counties to manage, which are also struggling. So it’s kind of robbing Peter to pay Paul. And nothing changes. So after AB 109 went to fact, the next year, property crimes went up 9%. And moreover, 61% of those offenders who were eligible for this program and by the way, it’s retroactive. 61% are arrested within a year and 41% are convicted again. So clearly, the recidivism rate created by this law was a major problem. Fast forward to 2014 and the worst of them all comes out of strategy. Political strategy Consultant firms in San Francisco who, by the way, backs Kamala Harris and to create trade stand. And this is called Prop 47. Yes. So Prop 47 was. Marketed to Californians. And I should say for people don’t understand California politics, we have this, you know, a system that allows for, you know, really important legislation to be put forward directly to the voters. And that’s how a lot of very, very big laws in California have like initiative system.

Tucker [00:12:42] Yeah. Like Prop 13.

Chris Moritz [00:12:44] For cyclone Prop 27. Exactly. Well we can talk about but prop form excuse me, 47.

Tucker [00:12:53] This was the stealing legalization it’s called.

Chris Moritz [00:12:57] It was called just, you know, euphemistically the Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act. And the idea behind it was we would again address the mass incarceration problem, reduce the prison capacity by shifting, again, nonviolent offenders, you know, out of state prisons and treating thefts under $950 as misdemeanors. Prior to this law, thefts at $400 would be felony grand larceny. And this law changed it such that it would have to be above $950 to become a felony. So as as a consequence of this. There was also as a as another another factor of 47 was that drug possession would would would no longer be a felony. It would be treated as a misdemeanor. And this has also exacerbated the drug and homeless problem. In fact, I think in the years after right after Prop 47 went into effect, the number of E.R. overdose cases was up 25%.

Tucker [00:14:18] So this is the law that legalized stealing and drug use effectively. So I remember this very well. And I think I remember Rob Reiner, who’s an enemy of civilization, being one of the many celebrity backers of this. But it was quite popular. I mean, like a lot of famous people were behind this.

Chris Moritz [00:14:36] Yeah. Well, Kamala Harris wrote the wrote the law that appear on the ballot.

Tucker [00:14:42] And Kamala Harris did.

Chris Moritz [00:14:44] Yes. Because in California, the attorney general of the state will write the language and the title for every proposition.

Tucker [00:14:52] Harris is the one who wrote the Legalized Stealing Act.

Chris Moritz [00:14:55] Yes. And I will tell you, Steve Cooley calls it fraud by misrepresentation. And there is a poison pill within Prop 47 that is quite shocking. And she was actually called out for it by the Sacramento Bee, and that is that these reclassified offenders would no longer be subject to mandatory and standard DNA testing as a result of DNA testing for across the state went from 15,000 a month to 5000 a month. And DNA testing is super, super critical for the solving of cold case homicides, rapes and other violent crimes that, you know, are typically associated with people with track records of crimes. So these nonviolent, you know, the larceny type offenders are, you know, are very likely are, you know, or at least, you know, it should be investigated whether they have some kind of connection to other crimes. As we’ve seen, you know, everywhere.

Tucker [00:16:04] So small number of people commit the overwhelming majority of crime.

Chris Moritz [00:16:07] In every society. So Kamala Harris’s description in the ballot for 47, basically offshore skated this issue of the DNA testing. And the Sacramento Bee called her out on it and said that this was effectively a misrepresentation or failure on her part to omit this information from the.

Tucker [00:16:29] Shooters or the authors of this are like taking the side of rapists over the population. Yeah.

Chris Moritz [00:16:36] And and well, I’ll tell you also, she was not alone in writing this. The language. I mean, Kamala Harris doesn’t do anything right? She does. She she is a facilitator and an opportunist. And everything every action really, she has taken in California has been on the basis of what is good for Kamala Harris. Right. But what I have heard from from my sources, who are certainly would know with Prop 47, it was significantly influence in terms of the language by prominent figures from the criminal justice reform movement and even entities affiliated with George Soros, who has always been a funder of criminal justice reform.

Tucker [00:17:22] So they sold this as like, good for the California budget, good for the safety of your neighborhood, sort of the opposite of the truth or literally opposite of the truth. And people bought it. What what was the market?

Chris Moritz [00:17:35] 60%.

Tucker [00:17:36] 60%?

Chris Moritz [00:17:38] Yes.

Tucker [00:17:39] Committed civilizational suicide without knowing it?

Chris Moritz [00:17:41] Yes. They we sowed our own demise. Yes. And we did so because our leaders manipulate language. Nonviolent offender. For instance, is not known violent offender. In fact, in the next law that came about, that was, again, on our pathway to destruction, Prop 57, which passed in 2016, that law, again, which Kamala Harris wrote the language for and which she was excoriated by other Democrats when she was running for higher office, particularly Loretta Sanchez. Prop 57 was again to address mass incarceration and would offer additional parole opportunities for offenders that were deemed to be, quote, nonviolent. But under what is nonviolent under 57, it is anything that is not one of 23 specific crimes that is in a obscure section of the penal code. So nonviolent could be drug trafficking, human trafficking, rape by intoxication, some forms of assault. Financial crimes, serious financial crimes. And basically, these these offenders under this provision would would have opportunities for parole and also parole administration, which was also passed down to the county levels, who, again, didn’t have the resources to handle this new burden. So there’s a striking example of this.

Tucker [00:19:29] Was a ballot initiative.

Chris Moritz [00:19:30] Also balanced, should also passed, again, I think by a pretty good margin and not as not as famous or infamous as 47, but, you know, very destructive. There’s a case of a of a offender released under this who went on to kill like 4 or 5 people in a mass shooting gang related like within two years of of release, because, of course, when they go into the parole system, the parole system is is completely incompetent at the local levels. They and they do not have the resources. And there was a participation rate of offenders of 9% in rehabilitation programs. And the in the cornerstone of 57 was we are taking these, you know, people that, you know, they they are nonviolent and they can be redeemed. Right. But it’s really just a gimmick that is driven by, again, this this this mandate by the Supreme Court, but also by the influence of criminal justice reform advocates.

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Chris Moritz [00:22:52] Well, I think there’s there’s there are those who are pushed for these initiatives who are just pure sociopaths and they are not really committed ideologically. They they get they galvanize around it because it’s in vogue and it allows them access to money like Soros money. George Gascon is probably the greatest example of this. I’m not an ideologue ideologue, by the way, a very bad, stupid lawyer from what everyone says, but not an ideologue. A sociopath is how he’s been described to me as have some of these other rogue prosecutors. But then there’s the true believers. And within criminal justice reform, I think it’s fair to say there is a spectrum of of radicalism. You know, some initiatives I think have like good intentions. You know, we we do want rehabilitation in society. We do want the opportunity to build one’s life back by a bad choice. Like that’s like that’s a. Christian value, of course, but. It goes much, much deeper than that. And I think that as you as you peel back the layers of criminal justice reform and look at what they’re specifically advocating for, a range is not only from mass incarceration solutions, but also, frankly, defunding the police, pacifying the police through, you know, ideas like community policing, in which police are sort of characterized now as social workers rather than in law.

Tucker [00:24:33] Enforcement, emasculating them.

Chris Moritz [00:24:34] Turning or smashing into one literally emasculated. Yeah, literally. I mean, women now make a huge portion of overall cops. And, you know, there’s the cops I’ve talked to who are like, you know, serious, serious, like threatening figures. But but good guys. They if they see the police today as absolute a joke. And I can tell you and I’ll get into it about how bad it’s getting at the LAPD and other law enforcement agencies. But through erosion because of these policies and morale erosion. But back to criminal justice reform, I think that it’s really important to strip away euphemisms. And when I was evaluating, you know, the tenets of this of this movement, it became apparent to me that not only did it place the offender above victim. It it fundamentally resulted in. The the diffusion of crime and the spreading of suffering as a policy choice. So as laws like.

Tucker [00:25:51] Trying to wreck other people’s neighborhoods, safe neighborhoods, affluent neighborhoods, white neighborhoods crash with crime on purpose because they were orderly, affluent and white.

Chris Moritz [00:26:02] That’s right. And I can tell you, like, for instance, the.

Tucker [00:26:06] So that’s not a figment of the imagination. That’s a that’s an actual choice. You think?

Chris Moritz [00:26:10] Well, I get for sure. BLM activists say that stealing, mass stealing of retail stores is a form of reparation. This is a crime. I call this crime equity, this concept. And it’s not even something said like in jest or flippantly. It’s actually a very deep and dark idea with historical analogs. I think particularly pertinent would be what happened in Rhodesia, where criminals are released from prisons in mass and sent on essentially government sanctioned theft of white farmers land and other property. And this is a form of, you know, kind of anarchic tyranny, right?

Tucker [00:27:04] So this is crime as a means of totalitarian control and as a tool of racial grievance.

Chris Moritz [00:27:14] It is a it is a crime as a means to redress historical grievances through collective punishment.

Tucker [00:27:23] So we’re mad about what your ancestors did. So we hope your daughter gets raped, correct?

Chris Moritz [00:27:28] Yeah.

Tucker [00:27:29] That’s about as evil as it gets.

Chris Moritz [00:27:30] Yeah. And I will give you some example. The second in charge at the L.A. County District Attorney’s office, the chief of staff, a woman named Tiffany Black, now who, you know, is proud to have been a rioter and looter in the 1992. Rodney King was a prosecutor. She came from the public defender’s office. Gascon is filled the.

Tucker [00:27:59] Way, but she is currently a prosecutor.

Chris Moritz [00:28:01] She is Gascon’s chief of staff. Wow.

Tucker [00:28:05] She was a rioter. Yeah.

Chris Moritz [00:28:08] She she’s written about the.

Tucker [00:28:09] Race riots of 92 track where people were murdered for their skin color.

Chris Moritz [00:28:13] Yeah. Asians in particular. Yeah.

Tucker [00:28:15] But in whites. Yeah. Yeah. But lots of Koreans. Yeah.

Chris Moritz [00:28:18] Yeah. Well there we’ll, we’ll get to the issue of Asians being targeted because that’s another, that’s another phenomenon that’s taking place. But Tiffany Black now is a avowed racist. She wears a t shirts that she’s posted on Instagram that says like police are trained to kill us. Right. And she is effectively number two at the DA’s office when Santa Monica and the west side of Los Angeles was being firebombed during the George Floyd riots and citizens were bemoaning this.

Tucker [00:28:56] That’s the white part of town just for those who went from town.

Chris Moritz [00:29:01] Tiffany Black now said, go cry me a river.

Tucker [00:29:06] Allowed.

Chris Moritz [00:29:07] She put she posted on on like Twitter or Facebook.

Tucker [00:29:14] That’s really scary.

Chris Moritz [00:29:16] Well, I mean, this is this is who Gascon has surrounded himself with. So Tiffany Black. And it’s a great example of like, a true believer. Gascon No, he’s too stupid to be a believer like Kamala Harris. I find it very ridiculous when people say Kamala Harris is a Bolshevik because she’d be a Bolshevik. You actually have to know about philosophy or you have to know about dialectics.

Tucker [00:29:37] She’d have to make it through Das Kapital.

Chris Moritz [00:29:39] Kamala Harris only knows Kamala Harris, although she doesn’t even know that because we can’t figure out what her name is.

Tucker [00:29:45] She’s a child, obviously. She’s a tool of greater power. Obviously, I mean, she went out there by accident because of her skin color.

Chris Moritz [00:29:52] So the laws continue to get worse from there. And in 2020, that was the catalyst. So the George Floyd well.

Tucker [00:29:59] Just to be sure, linger on this for one second. Just to be clear, you.

Chris Moritz [00:30:03] Believe that.

Tucker [00:30:05] Crime is not an accident. Crime is a result of intentional policy. Crime is the point of the policy. And part of the aim is to punish people for their skin color with crime.

Chris Moritz [00:30:15] Of course.

Tucker [00:30:16] Not. Of course. That’s the sickest thing I’ve heard this year.

Chris Moritz [00:30:19] Well, it it’s extremely evil. And it is it is demonstrably the case because these laws were so they they were so obviously negligent and reckless. Everyone knew. All the law enforcement agencies, all the district attorneys came out against these kinds of initiatives saying that these the result is going to be dangerous criminals on the street, dangerous criminals on the street. This is our future. And they passed it anyway. The voters passed it. Kamala Harris wrote the language, you know, and again, Prop 47 is called the Safe Schools and Neighborhoods Act. Right. So the idea is that the funding say budget savings from moving for not classifying these larcenies as felonies and end and thereby being misdemeanors which are not ever, ever enforced or prosecuted, would save millions of dollars that would then be redirected to schools.

Tucker [00:31:26] Well, do the schools get great in California?

Chris Moritz [00:31:28] The schools are worse than ever.

Tucker [00:31:30] Are the neighborhoods safer?

Chris Moritz [00:31:33] No, of course not. Like the the L.A. is as as L.A. is not as quite as violent as it was during the 1990s, which was at the peak of the the drug war between the Bloods and the Crips. However, we’re getting there. And the difference between now and then is that back then, gangsters were killing each other. They were killing each other for, ah, you know, who owned what street corner to sell drugs. Right now, the violence is turned against all of us.

Tucker [00:32:08] The tax payers, the people who created the society and sustain it with their labor.

Chris Moritz [00:32:13] Yeah. So that’s that is how.

Tucker [00:32:15] I think, because the the gangs did not create Los Angeles or the United States or anything of value in this country at all. They create nothing. They only destroy. Just to be clear. And so while all of us are equal in the eyes of God and all of us are equal as American citizens, we’re not all equal in our effects. Some of us are creators and others are destroyers. And you’re saying that the destroyers are now killing the creators?

Chris Moritz [00:32:37] I’m saying that destroyers run California man. And I can tell you, that’s not hyperbole. And. Really in many ways, California is actually under the southern tier of the Mexican drug cartels. And this happened primarily.

Tucker [00:33:00] California is under the sovereignty of the Mexican sovereignty.

Chris Moritz [00:33:03] Sovereignty is this idea that a one power exerts influence on another and allows some autonomy of the subordinate power. It’s often been used in like geopolitical analysis to like, for instance, describe how Rome a Roman Empire administered Gaul. Right, exactly. So so there’s a semblance of autonomy, but there is still ultimately a power that is answer to. And the reason that the Mexican drug cartels, I think, qualify for that is because sometime around 2010, all this bad stuff happened. 2010. And if I may even say, like, you know, when we last spoke about the trans issue that also really got into effect in 2010, it’s peak Obama ism. So what it is. But in any event.

Tucker [00:33:58] So I think in retrospect, we can say that Obama was a destroyer, that the intent was to subvert and destroy the United States and that some people call that early they were derided as crazy or racist. They weren’t either one of those things that were prescient.

Chris Moritz [00:34:10] I always took him completely deadly serious when he said he was going to change America. And he did? Yes. Maybe forever. But in any event, around 2010, there was a hostile takeover of the narcotics distribution market in California, which had been otherwise the domain of black gangs.

Tucker [00:34:37] Native born, black.

Chris Moritz [00:34:38] People, legacy black gangs had run our colleagues and dope trade.

Tucker [00:34:43] Can I just say at least, you know, even if they’re drug dealers or gang members, they’re still Americans.

Chris Moritz [00:34:48] And let me tell you.

Tucker [00:34:48] To share a common history.

Chris Moritz [00:34:50] And actually, actually, there they have they have principles. That’s kind of the point.

Tucker [00:34:57] I was making. At least they’re part of this country for sure.

Chris Moritz [00:35:00] I’ll tell you in a minute how principled they are. Maybe we even agree with them on some things because.

Tucker [00:35:06] I suspect reverting the same way this November. Well, on that out there. Well.

Chris Moritz [00:35:10] So when the cartels when the cartels moved into California, they said to all the black gangs, if you sell dope without our permission, we will, quote, cut your head off. And they meant that literally. They meant that literally. So every black gang had to then find an alternative revenue stream or get their dope supply from the drug, from the cartels, from Hispanic gangs, because all Hispanic gangs in California kind of operate as a as a extension of of gangs above them, which is that which are based in prison. And and that’s another issue. But the you know, the highest level gang in California is called the Mexican Mafia. And it’s a prison. It’s a prison gang. But this and this gang is the ultimate authority, really, on all Latino gangs in the state. Are 2 to 300,000 gang members in California.

Tucker [00:36:09] 63% to 300,000.

Chris Moritz [00:36:11] Yes. The first for reference, the U.S. National Guard has 250,000 members. There’s 1.2 million gang members in the United States. And in California, 63.

Tucker [00:36:23] Much bigger than the active duty U.S. military.

Chris Moritz [00:36:25] Yeah. Thanks. I think so. And 63% are Latino. So as a result of this volume and numerical advantage, they control the prisons. So the Mexican mafia, which is actually like, you know, a legacy organization, it has a long history. How.

Tucker [00:36:49] Long history for 50 years.

Chris Moritz [00:36:51] Anyway. And they are incredibly powerful. And and as as it was told to me by this incredible L.A. County sheriff, sergeant who and I’m not going to mention the names of any my sources for their protection and safety, but this gentleman said to me that he was head of Major crimes bureau for the L.A. County Sheriffs. And 25 year veteran of the force now in private security. And he said to me that. The prisons rule the street. So effectively the criminal economy of California, which is in the tens of billions, maybe 100 billion, passes through California’s state prisons. So that is a prima facie indictment of the failure of our prisons, because from prison, the Mexican mafia is ordering hits, running drug trades, human trafficking, you name it. And they do so as proxies of the Mexican drug cartels in Mexico. Yes.

Tucker [00:38:07] So this is they’re.

Chris Moritz [00:38:08] Not in Mexico. They’re in California.

Tucker [00:38:10] But this is exactly what destroyed or Salvador and has wrecked Mexico. And Guatemala is drug gangs operating their leaders operating from prison.

Chris Moritz [00:38:20] With impunity.

Tucker [00:38:21] With impunity. So let’s ask you to decide. No, because I can’t resist. So in those in Mexico, Guatemala and Salvador and probably other countries as well, the drug gangs are effectively religious organizations based on Satanism. Is that true in California as well?

Chris Moritz [00:38:36] Well, I will tell you that the the law enforcement and prosecutors that I talked to would say that the illegal alien gang element is characterized by extreme violence. Right?

Tucker [00:38:48] Like extreme.

Chris Moritz [00:38:49] Like like ice violence.

Tucker [00:38:51] Right. Unnecessary violence. Not just shooting people to death as the black gangs. Historically. There’s a lot of.

Chris Moritz [00:38:56] Reasons for that. I mean, I in my in my research, I couldn’t help but sort of trace like the anthropological and historical basis for this extreme violence.

Tucker [00:39:08] And we’re back to the Aztecs, aren’t we? Well, of course. Yeah, of course, of course.

Chris Moritz [00:39:12] Because you have to consider the fact that we’ve seen so-called narco terrorists, narco empires many, many times since the 70s. Yeah. And, yeah, they killed a lot of people, but they shot them. Or they used car bombs or basic kind of mafia style hits. And that is also the case for the Italian mafia.

Tucker [00:39:37] The Genovese who sold heroin. They didn’t behead.

Chris Moritz [00:39:39] Anyone. And that’s the case for the Triads. Exactly. The case for the Russians, even. Yes. But in Mexico and in Central America, what we see is what I call cultural atavism. And it’s the notion that there are certain cultural traits and practices that survive the generations and are amalgamated into a new society. And Mexico is a very I mean, it’s a wonderful place in many, many ways. I agree. I love it. But. It is a fusion of indigenous, you know, indigenous people and Spanish, Catholic and.

Tucker [00:40:21] European.

Chris Moritz [00:40:21] Right. And many of those traits from that survived the Aztec period. And I will tell you, the the level of brutality of the Aztecs is is beyond belief. Yes. They killed 200,000 people a year at least. The sacrifice. Yes.

Tucker [00:40:41] Tex were so committed to human sacrifice and not just sacrifice, but the but the torture of living people and to.

Chris Moritz [00:40:47] Death and children, by the.

Tucker [00:40:48] Way. Of course. And not just the Aztecs, but the Maya and the Inca. Also that it does in the end, as much as you sort of hate the conquistadors because they were brutal and all that, you root for the conquistadors with everything you have.

Chris Moritz [00:41:01] I will tell you, the Aztecs worshiped a lightning and rain God called flower. And when there were droughts, they would they would sacrifice their children. And they believed that the tears of their children as they walked up the steps of the pyramid to have their hearts ripped out would be taken by the gods and transformed transmogrified into rain.

Tucker [00:41:31] Yeah.

Chris Moritz [00:41:32] So this is the culture.

Tucker [00:41:34] You see this with with in some Native American cultures in North America as well, where it’s not simply a matter of killing people, but of prolonging their suffering. Yes. As an offering to to the spirit world. Well, the the. So this is not a guess. By the way.

Chris Moritz [00:41:47] What’s been written foretells emerge from this from this kind of amalgamation culture. And they they have altars. They have ulcers of with human skulls and other kind of icons that are indigenous to major America. There’s even a cartel icon or idol, I should say, called Santa muerte, which is, you know, you see a lot of cartel tattoos and so forth. And, you know, Ms13 is even more demonic, although that was born in California. In West Angeles. Yes. The way like it came from Los Angeles and El Salvador and destroyed El Salvador.

Tucker [00:42:27] Exactly. So but witchcraft is at the heart of this. And I don’t think that’s incidental. It’s not.

Chris Moritz [00:42:33] Animism.

Tucker [00:42:34] Yeah, that’s right. Or exactly. But it’s a religious cult as well as a business organization.

Chris Moritz [00:42:40] Exactly. And that’s why I feel it’s so critical to understand this dynamic. It’s not just a historically interesting facet, but the fact is that we have brought in millions, 12 million migrants, many of them coming from this this triangle right in Central America. And it’s really important to understand what who are these people? And especially, let’s say the 2 million got away’s, which is often cited as the pure criminal element amongst the migrant invasion. And because there was all migrants, you know, that are looking for economic benefits or whatever, they turn themselves into ice. And Tom Homan told me this directly. They turned themselves into ice. And under the Biden administration, ice as home input, it has been reduced to instead of enforcement changing diapers and making sandwiches. But for those 2 million that that evade ice, they are doing so so that they are not put into the system and they are pure gangsters and they’re coming from cultures that display heads on bridges and skinned people alive and boil people in acid. And this is part of their sport. And it’s and it is it is seeping into California.

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Chris Moritz [00:46:49] They insofar as that they control ultimately through proxies the entire criminal economy of California. Amazing. Now there’s another factor of this. So it.

Tucker [00:46:59] Displaced so black crime where people fretted about for years is like not a thing.

Chris Moritz [00:47:05] Anymore. No. It went somewhere else. They had to find other alternative revenue streams, other verticals. And what was the well, what was the safest alternative? And also highly lucrative residential burglaries and retail theft. So all of the retail theft that you see that we see in the media of these, you know, Nordstrom’s being. Right. Looted. Yeah. By hordes of thieves. That’s not just like incidental individual acts of like larceny. Right. That is all organized by gangs And the market for the resell. The fencing is called for in California. Maybe just even Los Angeles is like $10 billion. Nationwide retail thefts are $100 billion.

Tucker [00:47:58] Where’s it resold?

Chris Moritz [00:48:00] It’s resold through Fencers. And eBay? Yeah, eBay. It’s, you know, like pawn shops like. But I think primarily on the Internet or to, you know, even perhaps other companies. You know, it’s it’s it’s it’s it passes through multiple layers. Right. And, you know, these fencing operations are extremely lucrative. So so there’s that angle to it. And it’s resulted in the emergence of trends within these kinds of burglaries called flocking or jogging or knock knock burglaries or follow home burglaries. And basically it it’s, you know, flocking is a term that refers to penetrating like a safe neighborhood, blending into that neighborhood, targeting a particular person that they’ve perhaps through social media, identified as potentially wealthy, and then going on missions into these neighborhoods to to rob them, tie them up, home invasions, whatever. But what’s quite interesting is that there are some gangs that have become so good at it that they now actually act as consultants to other gangs to teach them how to flock.

Tucker [00:49:30] So what does that look like from the victim’s perspective?

Chris Moritz [00:49:33] Well, it could look like getting tied up. It could look like you’re not home and everything’s you come home and everything is gone. A knock, knock burglary is just like what it sounds like. Criminals will, you know, knock, knock on a door. If someone’s home, maybe they don’t proceed with the crime, but sometimes they do. And I can tell you a story that I heard that really, truly shocked me. It took place also in Santa Monica, which is where I’m from, that there was a case of a single woman in her home. It’s in a nice part of Santa Monica, and age is two guys. Gangsters attempt to knock, knock on her and they breach the door and her dogs attack these guys so badly that they the altercation moves into the street and they are wounded by the dogs. She calls the police. Police show up and the gangsters claim that their dogs attacked them and the cops call animal control. And she moved out to Texas after that.

Tucker [00:50:52] That’s crazy. But it’s also kind of in miniature. The bigger problem, which is in California, the state is on the side of the criminal against the wolves.

Chris Moritz [00:51:03] So if I if I can turn it to like a personal anecdote, about a year ago, my home in Santa Monica, which it’s an affluent neighborhood, but like my house is for sure the most dilapidated on on the block it’s been in my family, you know, through my great grandparents. My brother and I lived there and own it. And in September of last year, we were subject to two home invasion robberies in a row. Although I should say technically, these are what’s called a high profile burglary, which means that residents are in the in the property when the burglary takes place, but don’t necessarily confront the burglar If if they confront them, it’s like a home invasion. So there’s a little distinction where there was.

Tucker [00:51:55] Someone home when the.

Chris Moritz [00:51:56] My brother and I were home asleep in the house when when the burglar came in and through brazenly through, you know, we were kind of naive because we thought, you know, Santa Monica is the greatest place in the world, right? So like, we had a our alarm system was out was not like on in the back, you know, back patio doors unlocked. So how he knew that, I don’t know. But it was a well-lit house. You know, there’s there’s houses on either side signs indicating like an alarm system and yet that did not stop him. And so we woke up the next day and my brother was in the main house. We have a little casita, a kind of converted garage where I happened to be during when this took place. And I came into the house and the door back door was wide open and I went up to my room and my my entire room was destroyed. Every every valuable item I’ve ever had in my life was taken heirlooms from my grandparents, gifts from my parents for graduation. It’s really just like really like token memories, you know? And so it was pretty devastating. And we call the police and riot police. They showed up 12 hours later. They said that when they finally came that the delay was due to the fact that they’re dealing with so many homeless overdoses. So they just for fingerprints and say this is going to be this is a serious crime and we will take it seriously and don’t worry. Well, the next night it happens again.

Tucker [00:53:44] The next.

Chris Moritz [00:53:44] Night. The next night? Yeah, the next night he dismantles a window in our dining room, which is also my office. And he he took whatever was left, which was nothing. There’s nothing left. I mean, the guy would steal things like Easter eggs, like sunglasses, like a letter opener in addition to really valuable stuff. And I believe he came back a third night because I saw a car lurking in the middle of the night outside of our house. And I saw a figure in this vehicle that ultimately matched the description of of the perpetrator who was caught about a about a month later. And the story behind this is, I think, really quite interesting and was the reason why I undertook the research that I have done, because the guy who did this to us was an illegal alien, a dreamer, actually an Ms. 13 gang member with a a convicted felon with seven years in prison in California state prison for violent crimes. He was deported by Trump administration, Homeland security immediately after after getting out of prison. In fact, he notes, I read the whole police report of this in the course of like my trying to understand what took place. And it’s it’s funny, he comments to the to the cops during his interrogation that as soon as he was released from state prison, Ice immediately picked him up and deported him back to El Salvador immediately. And while he was in El Salvador, he had his Ms13 face tattoo removed. And he was in El Salvador for about a year or so and then went back, then traveled to France. And for whatever reason, the guy had a that his his his day job was as a carpenter. And, you know, actually his primary language was English. So I guess we can be thankful for that. Thank you, Lindsey Graham and the Dream Act. But he he sneaks back into the US in 2021 under during the Biden wave of of migration and he proceeds to go on a rampage. He he does have a kid too at this time so we now have a US citizen to deal with. And he he robs a dozen houses in the same manner all over L.A. County, but also in Ventura County. He robs the home of a judge, a very well-respected criminal judge who presided over the Michael Jackson death trial. It’s funny, the police report notes that he took the judge’s small wristed Seiko watch and just like the guy would took anything and everything he took. You know, I saw the police reports that he was taking wedding rings. He took a Catholic rosary box. Like there was nothing that was above limit. He, you know, again, like he stole memories from people and he did so callously and with impunity. And he was eventually arrested. In Simi Valley, which is in Ventura County, which is tougher on crime overall than in L.A. County, but not by much. And when he was arrested by a joint task force in the middle of the day, he was in his vehicle with his wife and child in the backseat. The police found on him a loaded, stolen Kimber handgun with hollow point bullets. They found body armor, which, by the way, is a federal crime because he’s a convicted felon. You cannot have body armors, convicted felons for federal crime. They found they found strange things like a bachelor’s degree diploma from Armenia. Currency. Foreign currency, knives. Like it went on and on and on and on. He was clearly, clearly a violent person. And when he was brought into interrogation, the officer assigned to him started by saying thank you for not opening fire on us. We really appreciate that. And he said, Don’t thank me because I was planning on killing you and for sure going, Erik’s on you, whatever that means, and taking my last stand. Had it not been for the fact that my wife and kids were in the car because he said I’m never going back to jail. So fast forward to his his arraignment in Ventura County. He was convicted on one count of one of these charges, maybe two counts. But in any event, he’s sentenced to two years in jail and a $300 fine, and he’ll probably serve less than that.

Tucker [00:59:00] $300 fine. Yeah. Did you get any of your stolen goods back?

Chris Moritz [00:59:03] No. No. The way I was notified was because he had my. My driver’s license and credit cards. And so as part of the investigation, they called all the other victims. They also relayed this information to Santa Monica police, Santa Monica police. Despite the fact that they had a forensic team come in and swab and, you know, take this really seriously, like CSI style stuff. The assigned detective on my case has still a year, more than a year later, not even called me or attempted to interview me. They have no interest. And I’ve followed up many, many, many times.

Tucker [00:59:42] They just don’t care.

Chris Moritz [00:59:42] They don’t care because there’s no incentive to care. Because these crimes are considered property crimes. In Los Angeles County.

Tucker [00:59:49] Even though you were asleep in your home when this guy with the history of violence enters your home with you in it.

Chris Moritz [00:59:56] And if if my brother had been awake and woken up, I think there’s a high chance of a violent interaction that would have taken place. I mean, I’m sure he was had had a gun or a weapon on him when he did this. There’s no there’s no reason to doubt that. So it’s a miracle, actually, that we’re okay. But I was so shocked by what happened. And, of course, after the second night, you just lose sense of like, reality, like how is this happening like this? Am I being targeted? Like. And the cops really had no explanation for this. I think that this guy thought we were an easy mark because it was an old house. There’s still a handicapped parking sign in front of the house. You know, it’s from my grandparents time. So he probably presumed that there were old people living in the house, you know, and predators go for the week. And so I, in an attempt to try and like, intellectualize and frame this experience, which still haunts us to this day. I mean, you never feel quite the same in the home. You know, and it’s a terrible thing when like a home that’s been in your family for almost like four generations is stained and violated. It’s almost feels like an assault, like a sexual assault, even like it’s it’s a very, very strange feeling. I mean, burglary. Got you. And and it’s made all the worse by the fact that victims are revictimized by the justice system in California. And so as I started to talk to prosecutors and law enforcement agents, law enforcement officers about how this could have happened, what is going on in the state, is this common? Like, how could it be common? I spoke to a very, very well respected victims rights advocate and veteran deputy district attorney for L.A. County, a liberal, by the way, named Kathleen Kennedy. And in the course of my interview and telling this story, she said. This was so important about your story. Is that it’s so relatable. And I said relatable. Like, how is this in any way relatable that an Ms. 13 gang member, a convicted felon, dreamer, illegal alien, could break into your house brazenly two nights in a row, probably armed, threaten to kill police officers and get two years in prison. And this is relatable. So if that is the case. Then the system is fundamentally broken. And in fact, I would go so far as to say that the entire civilization is based around the social contract. And the tenets of the social contract is that we we we surrender certain freedoms. To the government, to the state, which is supposed to have a monopoly on violence. And the state in turn provides protection to us from the anarchic state of nature, as Hobbes put it.

Tucker [01:03:27] Sorry. Not just in turn, but in exchange for.

Chris Moritz [01:03:30] Yes, it’s a transact transaction.

Tucker [01:03:31] That’s a.

Chris Moritz [01:03:32] Transaction.

Tucker [01:03:32] We’re buying safety and peace of mind in exchange for our money and some of our autonomy.

Chris Moritz [01:03:41] Exactly. And went and went. And that contract has been breached and broken in California.

Tucker [01:03:46] So at that point, it’s just it’s just theft.

Chris Moritz [01:03:48] Well, didn’t engage in it negates the entire legitimacy of the government.

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Chris Moritz [01:05:50] Ever.

Tucker [01:05:50] In history has experienced except during war, during invasion. So, like, what is that’s a meaningful fact and have that happen?

Chris Moritz [01:06:00] Well, i’ll give you a statistic in the LA School district, LA-USD 195,000 students are English learners. There’s 90 languages officially spoken in LAUSD. 27% of California is foreign born.

Tucker [01:06:23] Of the 27%.

Chris Moritz [01:06:24] Of the entire city is foreign born. Mind you, that doesn’t mean like China. First generation, which adds probably makes a majority of that point. In in 1990 it was 20%, which is still high. That was very much because of the of the Reagan amnesty from the 80s.

Tucker [01:06:45] 86.

Chris Moritz [01:06:46] 86. But today it’s 27%. And the national average, I think is like 13%, something like that. Maybe, maybe a little higher.

Tucker [01:06:56] Much higher now. Much higher because they’re illegals.

Chris Moritz [01:06:58] But California is by far has the greatest foreign presence in the in the state. And I think that, you know, the reason for this is that we long ago, you know, and long before these laws that I’ve been discussing and we’ll discuss. Enacted policies that incentivized illegal aliens to come into the state because they would get welfare benefits, they would get basically Right. More rights than the citizens. In fact, I will tell you that junior prosecutors I talked to for this for this this research say that under George Gascon and this also is applied to other, you know, other jurisdictions, including actually under Kamala’s policies. But in L.A. County, illegal aliens who commit certain crimes are given special plea deals that would never, ever, ever be given to a U.S. citizen for the specific person purpose of protecting them from ice. So to me, that’s a due process violation.

Tucker [01:08:11] So I do think anybody who advocates for not just illegal immigration or mass immigration, but any immigration of any kind has to account first for California. Yeah. So here’s the state in which it’s been tried to the greatest possible extent, and it went from the best state to the worst state. Now, maybe you could say immigration had nothing to do with that. But you can’t say immigration didn’t change California. And the fact is, California’s become a much worse place to live. And the immigration numbers from California prove that.

Chris Moritz [01:08:40] 6 million have left California in the last ten years.

Tucker [01:08:43] Okay.

Chris Moritz [01:08:43] So these are only $7,000,000 billion in revenue this year. Losses result.

Tucker [01:08:47] Right. So these are not like opinions. These this is not, you know, crazed right wing ideology. These are just these are just numbers about our biggest and most important state, the biggest economy in the I. So. Or was part of that.

Chris Moritz [01:09:01] Also Tucker is the deindustrialization of California.

Tucker [01:09:04] For sure. There are lots of factors. I’m just saying, if immigration is good, then how about you explain California before you impose any more of it on me? Of course.

Chris Moritz [01:09:13] Well, California is is a warning not just to the nation, but to civilization. And what’s the warning? The warning is that oligarchy is always at your doorstep and in reach, and if it’s not vigilantly guarded against, it will consume you. It will terrorize you. It will control every aspect of your life and reduce you to a state of misery. Because California has now stratified between into something that, you know, I think Victor Davis Hanson has very eloquently discussed that, you know, over the years, which is that California has actually regressed into some kind of political economy that is reflecting neo feudalism, even where where you have a very small, extremely rich, the the most powerful, super rich in the world and an underclass of serfs. And the middle class have left and are leaving more and more costs of living. Other reasons? Deindustrialization, you know, the overall disintegration of the of the state which the elites are insulated from. Of course their private security.

Tucker [01:10:39] Of course. And and private schools or tutors, everything.

Chris Moritz [01:10:42] And so the aristocracy rules the state. And yet in California, because language is manipulated in almost Orwellian fashion. Oligarchy has become to mean. Progressive.

Tucker [01:10:59] Yeah. Or quote, democracy or democracy. I guess what and I’ve heard Victor say that thing and I’ve not had a long as he said it and not to be picayune about it, but if I could just defend feudalism against what we’re seeing in California right now, the idea of feudalism, while repugnant to the American mind and my mind, was still based on mutual need, the guy who owned the property, the Lord.

Chris Moritz [01:11:26] Of.

Tucker [01:11:28] The manor, was dependent upon his serfs as they were dependent upon him. I mean, it was a symbiotic relationship for sure. So if the serfs died, he became impoverished.

Chris Moritz [01:11:40] Well, the symbiotic relationship here is that the serfs provide electoral hegemony for sure.

Tucker [01:11:47] But I guess what I’m saying is, over time, a feudal family had a built in incentive to, at the bare minimum, make sure that their serfs weren’t dying of penalties. Yeah. Whereas I don’t see that happening in California. Doesn’t they have no skin in the game?

Chris Moritz [01:12:04] 2022 to 2023, there were 11,400 fentanyl overdose, the highest in the country in California, in California.

Tucker [01:12:14] So, yeah, I guess they don’t. Maybe to put a finer point on it, the people who whereas the the Lord in feudalism needed the labor of the serfs. The Lords of California do not need the Labor side of their state because.

Chris Moritz [01:12:27] The, because the industries are service industries or they’re tech and they require a very, very small number of people to directly. Right. And that’s part of the deindustrialization financialization of the state that which provided for middle class jobs and opportunity that is increasingly fleeting and fleeing in in the state and especially in Southern California. And as a result of that, especially the exodus of aerospace and defense industries from the state, we have, you know, Republican voters have left, and L.A. County, which used to be a Republican stronghold, became a blue stronghold. And at that point, California became a one party state. And one party states are are characterized by corruption. Yes, inefficiency, psychosis, I would argue, and all sorts of evils. And ultimately, it’s it is the antithesis of democracy. And, of course, that is exactly what these people claim, that they are defending. Democracy, exclamation point.

Tucker [01:13:44] Yeah. No, the ironies are manifold, which comes back at one moment. I never thought about that. So you said one party states about corruption. Of course. Inefficiency. All true psychosis.

Chris Moritz [01:13:57] Yeah.

Tucker [01:13:58] Why do you say that?

Chris Moritz [01:13:59] Well, I think because of the laws that we seen put into effect, the laws were so obviously going to engender criminality across the state. Yeah, right. It’s it’s like it in law, you know, in torts, we you know, the idea of negligence is the for foreseeability of harm. Right? And that is what really triggers a liability. Well, you.

Tucker [01:14:27] Knew this could happen, but you let it happen anyway.

Chris Moritz [01:14:29] And and so so California’s government and and frankly, uneducated voters have inflicted a grievous tort upon the state. And I think that it is so reckless that to me, it is psychotic. It is a form of psychotic, sociopathic behavior. And certainly many of the people implementing these policies are raving psychopaths. A a a really impressive young deputy district attorney in Alameda County said to me, with respect to the kind of progressive D.A. of that of that county named Pamela Pryce, that she is, quote, a raging psychopath who wants to burn down civilization. And I will tell you that every prosecutor that I spoke to and I spoke to ten over the course of 30 hours of interviews, and I also spoke to, you know, equal number of cops. But the one commonality that that every single prosecutor I talked to you mentioned was that there seems to be a motivation by the true believers of burning the system down. They are Jacobins. They are radical anarchists. They want to hurt you. They want to kill you.

Tucker [01:15:53] I mean, I’m going right to the spiritual explanation for that. But is there another like what could motivate that?

Chris Moritz [01:16:00] I mean, look, you know, if you’re if you’re asking I mean, of course, like personal power, right? So, like George Gascon is not per se, you know, it’s been told to me by people who would know him that he’s not particularly ideological. He was a he was he was a lousy LAPD cop that apparently everyone hated. He moved to Arizona at some point, got a law, a law degree at accredited, an unaccredited law school. And through the you know, the machinations of as of the one party state, which of course elevates people based entirely on do you you know, has this identity check mark been met or not? Carmel is the avatar of that. But he ends up as district attorney of San Francisco and appointed by Gavin Newsom and mayor succeeding Kamala Harris. And he follows the money. You know, Steve Cooley puts this very eloquently follows the money of thesaurus money down to L.A. to run to run for four for a district attorney in 2020. And it just so happened that, you know, this was the perfect, ripe opportunity given the riots of the George Floyd incident and the mood of the nation at the time, particularly in California, when the most radical policies and people could rise to positions that was otherwise, you know, unimaginable. Gascon has has absolutely decimated Los Angeles. He has stacked his office with public defenders. He has he has put in directives the first day of of of his tenure that include, of course, no cash bail, no enhancements, no no juveniles tried at adult court, obviously no death penalty. And he he has also there’s this is particularly insidious. There is a parole committee called Chase. What I forget exactly what that stands for, but basically it’s an opportunity for victims to appear with their offenders who are up for parole and to make a statement. You know what? And then this committee will decide on whether or not to grant parole. And under Gascon, prosecutors, who typically would accompany these victims for this, you know, frankly, an ordeal, they’re, you know, seeing your perpetrator again, as in a rape case. Imagine with a trauma that is. Well, Gascon said prosecutors are no longer allowed to accompany victims. And, in fact, what they are now, the victims are now required to do is to write a persuasive essay submitted to the committee. And the committee is stacked entirely of public defenders.

Tucker [01:19:11] Come on. Seriously. That’s grotesque. Can I ask something that occurs as you’re speaking about gas control? You’ve said that. All, organized criminal activity in the state of California is run in effect by the Mexican drug cartels through prisons. And I’ve heard people mention that before. So let’s just assume that’s true. Sounds like it is true. You just wrote a book on it. How could Gascon not know that?

Chris Moritz [01:19:39] I mean, Gascon, it’s not clear what Gascon knows of anything, but.

Tucker [01:19:44] I’m just saying the issue in places where the word drug cartels run things, which is a lot of Latin America. They also run the politics.

Chris Moritz [01:19:52] Well, let me put it this way even more maybe. Relevant to the time that we’re in, I would say. How did Kamala Harris not know that? Because Kamala Harris is as as attorney general of California in 2012, under the auspices of so-called budget cutting, budget reform, eliminated a 100 year old agency called the Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement. And it is widely held amongst law enforcement officers. And and on the prosecution side that this was a very important task force for fighting organized crime and had been doing so since prohibition and then became a major force in disrupting narcotics trade in the state. She disbanded it.

Tucker [01:20:36] Well, because she’s for narcotics, she wants a drug addicted population.

Chris Moritz [01:20:40] She does whatever she’s told.

Tucker [01:20:43] But I’m just saying, look, these drug cartels are powerful because they’re ruthless. They’re a cult based on witchcraft. But they’re also really rich.

Chris Moritz [01:20:54] Of course, they’re their Fortune 500 company.

Tucker [01:20:56] Exactly. So at some point, like in Mexico, they’re in control still because they’ve paid off all the politicians. Well, is that happening in California yet?

Chris Moritz [01:21:07] No. It’s not clear to me whether that that’s happening to the San. I’m certainly as expressed by Tom Homan when I spoke to him. You know, he says that you it’s very hard often to distinguish the Mexican elite from the Mexican drug cartels like they are. This is a there’s an inter woven of access.

Tucker [01:21:26] Yeah.

Chris Moritz [01:21:28] And of course, like in parts of Mexico, that the cartels exert actual, like, authority and governance over certain regions.

Tucker [01:21:37] Sure. Madre, for.

Chris Moritz [01:21:38] Example. But it’s it’s not really clear to me if they are influencing politicians or, you know, through, you know, grift or through bribes or anything. I’m not I’m not clear on that. Yeah.

Tucker [01:21:52] It may be just a matter. If not, it’s just a matter of.

Chris Moritz [01:21:54] I’ll tell you that the a director of the LAPD union said to me that the cartels are increasingly committing ransom attacks in San Diego of high profile families. And this is not getting reported.

Tucker [01:22:13] Kidnaping, as is so common in Latin America.

Chris Moritz [01:22:16] Yeah. They take him across the border and so special, like security forces made up of X seals and whatnot have to go into Mexico and extract them. This is now apparently rampant.

Tucker [01:22:32] It’s insane, but it shouldn’t surprise us. That’s a fact of life in Mexico City.

Chris Moritz [01:22:35] Human trafficking is also a very, like serious problem in the state. And it’s, of course, more lucrative in some ways than the drugs, because they can be used as over and over and over again as sex slaves. Right. So it’s like it’s like a recurring revenue stream. Although fentanyl should not be under my under, you know, underplayed in any way. Fentanyl produces like 200,000% margin. Yeah. And fentanyl, according to the top one of the top gang enforcement detectives in L.A. County based out of Compton. Ex-Special Forces guy, black guy. Incredible man. He said to me, Fentanyl, it’s so ubiquitous. It’s like salt. And if you buy a pill off the street, it has fencing all in it. And that’s why, you know, in fact, it’s so deadly and so dangerous that even the cartels are thinking that maybe we need to come up with something not quite as lethal because we’re killing our customers.

Tucker [01:23:42] Curse has since you mentioned Compton. So Compton was the largest black population west of the Mississippi since the Second World War. I was just there. It’s Spanish speaking. So you’ve had, you know, the black population of huge parts of L.A. moved east in the Inland Empire, murdered in huge numbers by newcomers. And I’ve never heard and Maxine Waters supposedly represents Compton or she doesn’t live there. But I’ve never heard a single black politician in California mention the fact that illegal immigration has, like, completely overturned life for a lot of black people in California. Not one time I’ve heard anybody say that. Why? What about your corrupt picks?

Chris Moritz [01:24:25] Yeah, I mean, obviously. But I think it’s I think it’s due to the fact that the power is now the locus of power is with the newcomers.

Tucker [01:24:36] Of course.

Chris Moritz [01:24:37] It’s just so it’s not in their interest to ever comment on these things.

Tucker [01:24:40] But if your job is to represent your your constituents or your people.

Chris Moritz [01:24:44] When have Democrats ever represented black people?

Tucker [01:24:47] Fair. Fair. I know. It’s just I’m it it’s, like shocking. This could happen and everyone’s watching it or people are paying attention or seeing it, especially if you’re from California like, well, this is very different from what it was ten years ago and nobody says a word.

Chris Moritz [01:25:00] You know, it’s interesting. So in in prison, the prison system, the black gangs, every it’s all obviously racially segregated. But the black gang is called the Black Guerilla Family. And again, according to this gang enforcement specialist that I spoke to, he said like, well, for the Mexicans, it’s about money, money in power for the Black Guerilla family, their enemies, the government. And like their political. And I thought you said, well, at least they have an ethos. No, I agree.

Tucker [01:25:36] It’s just interesting. You know, California state prisons are totally racially segregated. In fact, they were ordered desegregated at one point. And then the prisoners complained. The black prisoners complain because there’s so many. They were getting killed.

Chris Moritz [01:25:46] Yeah. I mean, look, the fact that this sort of level of criminality can exist within the prisons, it’s such an indictment of of the system overall. I mean, it’s it’s a joke. And, in fact, all these cops I talk to say the gangsters laugh at us. They have no fear of us. They do not fear the state.

Tucker [01:26:06] Then how are the prison guards, the highest paid state employees in California?

Chris Moritz [01:26:10] Because public sector unions have enormous power in Sacramento.

Tucker [01:26:14] But I mean, if I think that that was always true, prison guards were always the highest paid.

Chris Moritz [01:26:19] I mean, it’s a dangerous job.

Tucker [01:26:20] I agree. I’m not I know prison guards. I’ve always liked them. But on the other hand, if your job is to guard the prison and you’re getting paid more than anybody else working for the state in California and the gangs run the prisons, and that’s like, there’s something wrong with that look.

Chris Moritz [01:26:35] Obviously, there’s enormous corruption such that phones are smuggled in. A communication network obviously exists because how are you able to manage a criminal empire from within jail? How are you able to order executions and hits within jail? So there it’s porous. But I think the bigger issue ultimately and this is why I don’t think it’s the prison guards fault. It’s the state’s fault.

Tucker [01:26:59] We, the.

Chris Moritz [01:27:00] Gangsters, do not fear the law. They do not fear the law. And they they commit crimes with impunity. They’re committing increasingly gun crimes within with impunity because gun enhancements, as we talked about, no longer apply in many cases. So gun violence has gone way up like number of I think gun victims in the last three years has shot up in L.A. County like 63%.

Tucker [01:27:28] But you’ve got very strict gun control.

Chris Moritz [01:27:30] And you’re exactly right.

Tucker [01:27:32] So how hard is it for you to own a gun in California?

Chris Moritz [01:27:35] So I don’t own a gun. I should at this point. But I. I understand. Like it’s quite it’s quite, you know, a difficult process. And a lot of the guns that the criminals are using are all stolen. They’re not like going to, you know, a sports shop. And by buying a rifle.

Tucker [01:27:56] That you can get a 12 gauge for like 400 bucks. Yeah.

Chris Moritz [01:27:59] Mossberg But like of, like.

Tucker [01:28:01] We thought about that.

Chris Moritz [01:28:02] I mean, I’d love, like, one of your, like, beautiful hunting rifles.

Tucker [01:28:07] I think you’re better off with a 12 gauge. Hard to miss in close quarters.

Chris Moritz [01:28:10] Yeah.

Tucker [01:28:11] Yeah. Easy to operate. Well, you.

Chris Moritz [01:28:12] Know, actually, they say the cops say the best defense against these kinds of crimes is as a big dog. I have a cat.

Tucker [01:28:22] Yeah, I think. I think the cops lie a lot about guns. So with respect to Chris, they don’t want any competition. They want to be the only armed people on the ship.

Chris Moritz [01:28:30] Well, they’re getting competition.

Tucker [01:28:32] Well, I’m very aware of that. Cops tend in general to be against an armed citizenry. I like cops. I always defend cops. But on this one question, you know, there are employees that can keep their dumb opinions about guns to themselves, as far as I’m concerned. And you have a right to have a gun. And and I have a lot of dogs. I love dogs. But a 12 gauge is more effective than a dog, I’m just telling you.

Chris Moritz [01:28:52] For sure. Yeah, for sure. I will tell you, you know, on the cop issue, another factor of this story is the erosion of the quality of cops.

Tucker [01:29:03] Yeah. So what about that? Who would be a cop in LA?

Chris Moritz [01:29:05] Well, right now, we’re recruiting darker, you know, illegal aliens into the LAPD. Actually, yes. There’s been five so far. And a scandal, actually.

Tucker [01:29:16] Legal aliens.

Chris Moritz [01:29:18] Yeah. They’re not allowed to own firearms, right? They cannot have a firearm when they’re off duty.

Tucker [01:29:25] You’re. You have illegal alien cops.

Chris Moritz [01:29:28] Yes.

Tucker [01:29:29] So if we import 7 million military age men into the United States illegally, which the Biden administration has done, it does raise the obvious question, what is this exactly? Is this a mercenary army for the ruling class? It certainly seems like one. And if they’re making them cops, then it kind of. Well.

Chris Moritz [01:29:49] Let me tell you a story that’s not been reported as a cover up. And it was conveyed to me by a senior director of the LAPD union. It’s called the L.A. Police Protective League. And this is also a 25 plus year veteran of the LAPD. And detective, both his daughters are in the LAPD is like he he is as plugged in to this world as anyone. In fact, he said to me in our in our interview, he says, I tell everyone, don’t come to L.A. We cannot protect you. But on the darker issue, apparently in February of of this last February, a off duty LAPD detective encountered two members of the Serrano gang, which is a very violent, powerful Latino gang in Southern California. They were attempting to rob Still’s car. So there was an exchange of gunfire and the gangsters got away. And in their getaway car, they were they were apprehended the next day. And it turns out that the car was registered to a darker cadet in the LAPD. And the LAPD quietly shuffled her either out of the program or just covered up entirely. But the L.A. Times did report on this incident.

Tucker [01:31:22] Said they’re hiring illegal female illegal aliens with kids in car with gangs. So at that point, it’s just there.

Chris Moritz [01:31:31] I mean.

Tucker [01:31:32] It’s not a legitimate I mean, at that point, you’re just like you’re begging to be overthrown, of course. Right.

Chris Moritz [01:31:38] Do you know I mean, they have no legitimacy. Cops are increasingly finding alternative revenue streams of becoming private security officers for the elite. And a lot of the officers that I talked to are doing that because it’s so lucrative. California has the highest pay rates for for private security and the highest man for private security in the nation. And in fact, I’ll just tell you and it’s it’s this is a difficult thing to substantiate for a variety of reasons. But I think it’s it’s interesting, which is that I heard from, you know, this this L.A. County sheriff, a former like Major crimes bureau lead and now in private security that he he believe it was quite, you know, well known but quietly known in in this secure private security industry that George Soros or or his proxies were investing significantly in private security businesses. This was also confirmed to me by a former head of federal security for LAX and one of the top traders on Wall Street. So, you know, again, George Soros is portfolio and transactions are are private. It’s a family office. We really don’t know where the investments are going. But I think it’s it’s quite it’s quite striking to think that there may be other incentives beyond simply undermining the law for some kind of sake of, you know, creating a new a new world, a dystopia, of course. But nevertheless. I don’t think a trader, a financial trader, maybe one of the greatest in the world, stops becoming a traitor.

Tucker [01:33:28] Right now, the worship of money is a disease. And it’s.

Chris Moritz [01:33:31] Yeah.

Tucker [01:33:32] So I guess you go back just a couple minutes or so. You said that Kamala Harris dismantled the anti narcotics task force that had been around since Prohibition. I’m wondering, though, she has bragged publicly about dismantling the cartels, that doesn’t seem like the behavior of someone who’s dismantling cartel.

Chris Moritz [01:33:52] How can she dismantle the cartels? I just I just explained that the cartels run the state.

Tucker [01:33:58] So when she says that, I mean, there’s no truth in that at all.

Chris Moritz [01:34:01] There’s no truth in anything she says. I mean, she is a she is the avatar of moral bankruptcy there represents the state of California. You know, hollow, superficial, stupid, sociopathic. And I will tell you, everyone that I know, Democrats who have worked with her, including like a very elite consulting firm that tried to manage her campaign at one point, they say that she is lazy. Steve Cooley also says that, by the way, she was a lazy prosecutor and she is vicious. And when she doesn’t do her homework and gets caught in, you know, word salads because she doesn’t know what she’s talking about, she then lashes out on her staff. So she’s kind of like a even dumber version of Hillary Clinton. And I think fortunately, like, she’s so inept that the country is starting to see that I pray to God because if if Kamala Harris rises to the level of the presidency, we now have basically exported California now nationwide. And and and as I told you, in name of my book, it is called Failed State A Portrait of California in the Twilight of Empire.

Tucker [01:35:17] I can’t think of a sadder title or more accurate one, and I’d just refer back to my own childhood in that state. I mean, the distressing thing is it’s not like wrecking. You know? I don’t know. I don’t we mean, I could think of a couple of states that, you know, whatever, who cares? California was the greatest place on planet Earth. Horse. Yeah. So but, you.

Chris Moritz [01:35:35] Know, it’s interesting that Kamala, she actually did go after, you know, drug crimes, but she went after people who were smoking weed.

Tucker [01:35:44] Yeah, the easy ones.

Chris Moritz [01:35:45] The easy ones. Right. A lot of black people.

Tucker [01:35:49] Yeah, but she did not go after the cartels bringing in the drugs? No. So let’s talk for a minute about who runs California. So you’re from Southern California? As am I. I spent most of my childhood in Southern California, which was, you know, by far the most dynamic, prosperous part of the state by far in aerospace. You had some agg, obviously, tourism, and then you had the creative industries, the movie business, the record business, both headquartered there. It’s all gone except the egg. Yeah, but that’s not the part of the state that runs everything.

Chris Moritz [01:36:24] No, no, it hasn’t for some time. We haven’t really had a true Republican governor since, like, the mid-nineties with Pete Wilson. Yeah, Pete Wilson put forward a very, very famous proposition called 187, which was vote supported by voters by over 60%. And it effectively was to restrict any sort of social services except like non-emergency. So we’re still, you know, allowed for that to illegal aliens.

Tucker [01:36:58] And you can’t reward people who are here illegally with your money.

Chris Moritz [01:37:02] So. Right, exactly. So we went from that to, let’s say, like I think a month or so ago, this the legislature put forward a bill that would give illegal aliens preferential mortgages. Gavin Newsom, to his credit, vetoed that.

Tucker [01:37:19] Preferential mortgages.

Chris Moritz [01:37:20] They were they were very sweetheart deals.

Tucker [01:37:23] Like can I just say because I can’t contain my resentment. So ever since Prop 187 passed and that was invalidated by a judge because it’s a democracy where some judge gets to override the will of the people, it’s also fake. But ever since then, a certain kind of Republican consultant. And that would be the dumbest people I’ve ever met. And I’m speaking specifically of Frank Luntz, the guy with the hairpiece. But there could be many others. They’ve lectured Republicans about how won 87 lost California. It was a Republican, though. I know it’s a such a lie, but it’s a Republican state. And Prop 97, which did deny welfare benefits to illegal aliens. That was hate. That was racist Republican consultants. And guys like Mitch McConnell and all the dumb people in the party bought that.

Chris Moritz [01:38:07] Well, and of course, because they’re funded by the Koch brothers and the Koch brothers want to bring in cheap, illegal alien labor. Yeah, simple as that. I mean, I think was Lenin said that the capitalists will sell you the rope that will used to hang you.

Tucker [01:38:20] Of course. That’s right. So sorry. I just can’t. But back to your question, how reasonable that is. It’s not.

Chris Moritz [01:38:26] It’s beyond reasonable. And California used to be a reasonable, safe, secure state with really tough laws that put gangsters away. And and following the three strikes law and other reforms that came at the late 90s and into the early 2000s between 2000 and 2010 roughly, it was a pretty damn good place like Steve Cooley in Los Angeles, you know, cleaned up a lot of the mess. Even his predecessor, Jackie Lacey, did a relatively good job, although she was chased out of office by BLM. She’s black. She was chased out of office by and literally harassed her home by BLM activists because she was not, you know, in line with their anti-police anti incarceration agenda enough. And so we then have George Gascon, who received $2 million from George Soros. That was enough. It was a four day race That actually was extraordinary amount of money. It’s interesting because Soros played Moneyball with these DEA races all over the country because he realized that the district attorneys have enormous power because they can set policy about what crimes are going to be prosecuted, which are not. Some of these other directives that I mentioned earlier about cash bail and so forth. Although George Soros is actively excuse me, George has shown is actively in violation of state law and just operates, you know, nonetheless. But Soros understood that with a few million bucks, you could change a race.

Tucker [01:40:11] Why would you want to why would Soros, who’s a foreigner. I beg your pardon? From Hungary, Not from here. Why would I want to wreck someone else’s country? I don’t understand that.

Chris Moritz [01:40:21] Soros days have jurisdiction over like 75 million Americans. Like it’s crazy.

Tucker [01:40:29] What’s the motive? Like, why would you want your George Soros? You grew up in war torn Europe. Then you go to England, you help destroy their economy. Right. Which he did. And then you come to the United States, which is the nicest country in the history of the world, and you decide you want to take your ill gotten gains and use those funds to wreck someone else’s country. Like, what is what’s the motive here?

Chris Moritz [01:40:50] I talked to a lot of people about this. And, you know, initially, again, I didn’t want to even go down the Soros, you know, rabbit hole because I.

Tucker [01:41:02] You’re not allowed.

Chris Moritz [01:41:03] You’re not allowed. But also, like it’s cliche, It it.

Tucker [01:41:06] Is it is cliche.

Chris Moritz [01:41:07] But but the fact is that it’s real. It’s real. And it begs the question of why is it simply he is anarchic, you know, anarchist. Is he a financial terrorist? I would say yes. But what is the motivation? I think again, you know it. I do not believe a world class arbitrage, you know, arbitrage. The trader ever kind of leaves that mindset. There’s always it’s always money that motivates. So I think it is it’s you know, again, this is entirely speculation, but I would be very interested to see what is the portfolio of the family office of George Soros? Is it real estate? Because certainly the crimes surge in cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles have depressed real estate in these downtown districts, 25% at least, and insurance premiums have gone way up. So is there is there a trade there? Maybe? I don’t know. But as I said, there’s you know, there’s people that I trust and who would be in a position to know that indicate that there is potentially other motivating factors, at least with respect to Soros. So that being said, you know.

Tucker [01:42:32] It’s just crazy how little defense the United States has. Like, we don’t have moral defenses. We build this amazing thing, amazing, greatest things ever been built by any people in all of history. And then a few, I don’t know, evil figures like Soros roll in and we’re totally incapable of saying, Hey, foreigner, go away in order to do that, right? You can’t do that to us. And by the way, we’ll execute you if you try to do that. Well, I mean, a normal society would say, you know, we built this, you can’t wreck it, but we’re totally incapable a normal.

Chris Moritz [01:43:04] Society would have. And given the kind of violent criminals that are in Demick in California and that run prisons. Right. And commit murders in prison literally against guards, even a normal prison, I think would have capital punishment applied to these prisoners, you know, in the prison yard hangings. Right. Something whatever it takes to bring fear of the law and of the state to those who fear only the justice of the Mexican mafia, that is that is who they fear when they go to prison. It’s not the state. It’s a joke.

Tucker [01:43:45] Then. Then the Mexican Mafia is the state. Then in effect.

Chris Moritz [01:43:49] In effect? Yeah. Final word if it is, actually. Yeah. Yeah. They are the final arbiters. Yeah, they are the final arbiters.

Tucker [01:43:58] So there. And then they’re above the state.

Chris Moritz [01:44:00] Yeah, they’re.

Tucker [01:44:05] So I’m sorry I keep interrupting you just because it’s. That’s an emotional subject. I think it’s really.

Chris Moritz [01:44:09] Important, isn’t it? Is. It’s really. It’s really, really upsetting.

Tucker [01:44:13] We used to live there.

Chris Moritz [01:44:14] Yeah. Yeah. It’s deeply upsetting to see your home vandalized and, you know, just literally my home, but just my my, my hometown.

Tucker [01:44:22] Yeah, but you’re saying that Los Angeles is not where the decisions are made. Where are the decisions?

Chris Moritz [01:44:29] The decisions? The locus of power in California is centers around a very elite and small milieu in San Francisco, largely around an area called Pacific Heights.

Tucker [01:44:44] That’s where I’m from.

Chris Moritz [01:44:45] All right. Yeah.

Tucker [01:44:47] Originally. That’s so funny. Pacifica. Pacific Heights is the center of evil.

Chris Moritz [01:44:51] Well, and.

Tucker [01:44:52] Pretty neighborhood, though.

Chris Moritz [01:44:54] Well, San Francisco is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. It used to be, you know, like much of California. But in any event, the oligarchy that has been really now in place for almost 100 years, starting with the Gettys involvement with the Newsom family and the Newsom’s family involvement with Jerry Brown, goes back to the 1940s and 50s. And the science of each of these these dynasties all, you know, inter intermarried. They were into business together. Gavin Newsom’s first, you know, big kind of, you know, entrance into the scene was forming a restaurant group called Plump Jack, which he was preceded by the Getty family and was also cofounded with Billy Getty, who is the son of Gordon Getty, who is the son of J. Paul Getty. And the ads have funded Gavin’s entire political career, and they have made that possible in the the the Winery and Restaurant group. The success of that became a launching board into San Francisco City politics. I think he was on the board of supervisors then became mayor. And but always there was this this commonality and nexus between Pelosi’s family, Pelosi’s husband, the Gettys, the Browns and the Newsom’s. So they’re the old money elite that have been running the state for mom, you know, on or off since the 1940s. I mean, of course, there have been Republican governors here and there. It used to be, as we’ve talked about, like a sort of moderate state in the sometimes you voted for Democrat, sometime very Republican. Usually you voted for Republican candidates, presidential candidates. Last one was George H.W. Bush. But, you know, the the the accumulation of power amongst this circle really took hold after these changes that we’ve talked about in Southern California, the deindustrialization of Southern California, the the exodus of at least 6 million middle class Californians in the last decade and and the end of aerospace and defense leaving leaving Southern California. So L.A. then became a Democrat stronghold when it was once a Republican stronghold and power shifted to San Francisco. And the other reason power shift at San Francisco is because of the presence of tech. Big tech. Yeah, big tech is the new money. And the new money interweaves with the old money through VC investments and private placements and other sorts of, you know, kind of social circles and Ibrahimi and Grove, like you name it. And so we then have a power structure of an industry that that is made up of very few people, a lot of foreigners, by the way, of course, and these kind of dynastic, almost like ancient aristocrats in their in the manner of patron client relationships that define this paradigm. And and they have, you know, formed an enormous, let’s say, power block with tech. And and through that connection, California has been ruled by this oligarchy.

Tucker [01:48:49] But it’s just weird in the physical effects. I mean, my mom’s from I got to California in the 1850s from Maine to find their fortune, and they did. And so I’ve sort of gone there. My whole life was born. They’re on. And it was, you know, I thought a nice city liberal in some ways, very traditional in other ways, but kind of the same like the city that saw the least amount of change. And then after during the tech boom, 99, 98, 99, all this money came in, not just the South Bay renamed Silicon Valley, but into the city, particularly after 2000. And I thought, well, okay, so Cisco’s really rich now. Yeah, it’ll get better. Right. It was it was pretty nice, I thought. But it will get better. The richer the city got, the dirtier it got, the more dangerous it got, the more chaotic it became. Yeah. The money made it way poorer.

Chris Moritz [01:49:44] Yeah.

Tucker [01:49:44] So what is that paradox?

Chris Moritz [01:49:46] And it’s very interesting. Well, it’s.

Tucker [01:49:47] Bizarre when Twitter moved its head because, you know, all tech was, again south of the city. But then when the tech kind of started moving into cities like, it’s this beautiful city, it’s our Cape Town. And then it became like such a rich city. Richest city in the United States. It instantly became dirty. Like, what is that?

Chris Moritz [01:50:05] This is happening in Southern California, too. So in Venice, California, Google has has established a big office. And Venice is marred by just tragic levels of homelessness that are shocking. Shocking. And sites that I had only seen when traveling like to, you know, the poorest parts of Guatemala. Maybe worse in some ways. But right around the corner from the Google office in Venice is a let’s call it a shantytown, a favela, even, maybe, but tent after 10 to 4 tent and right next to Google. It’s a fascinating dichotomy. And I was told by someone who would know in the private security sector and a former former cop that he has observed because he has done work for Google, that gang members, local gangs extract tribute from each homeless tent every single day, 20 to $50 a day. And this is happening, he claims, across the city. There’s 75,000 homeless in Los Angeles. And if they cannot meet the tribute, they are forced to sell drugs or other crimes. And by the way, thanks to you, I believe this was a Newsom policy. Cops require I have to get search warrants to enter any tents. The tents have become denizens of of dens, rather of murder, of rape, of drug. The worst kind of drug trade and other forms of depravity that shocked the senses.

Tucker [01:51:58] And it’s right next to Google, right next door. So I don’t know. I think obviously I’m too simple to understand the modern world, but I always thought that the problem was poverty and that people committed crimes because they were poor. And the richer your society became, the safer and more orderly it became. But the exact opposite has been true. And it makes you wonder, like, is there some evil emanating from these tech companies? Answer Obviously, yes. That inspires chaos, depravity, crime, violence and filth.

Chris Moritz [01:52:30] Well, I think that the answer is is also structural economic, because tech is not based upon employing vast numbers of people. Right. Right. It’s not productive labor.

Tucker [01:52:45] Of course. No, I get it. I mean, and like. So nine guys from India writing code.

Chris Moritz [01:52:49] Exactly. And so when when when that becomes the dominant economic power in the state and manufacturing leaves the state and there’s where do where where do people where are the poor who are working class people turn to?

Tucker [01:53:05] Okay.

Chris Moritz [01:53:06] Here’s the housing crisis is also.

Tucker [01:53:08] I get it. I mean, it it drops the value of labor to zero.

Chris Moritz [01:53:11] For the rich people. I just reply to your point about is getting richer and yet worse. Yeah, it’s getting richer. And but the areas where the rich people live like Atherton are looking real nice these days.

Tucker [01:53:25] I was just in Atherton Pathogens. Great. Pathan at Malibu’s great. There are pockets of. I think Malibu still is great. Yeah, it is. It’s so far away, you know that it can be great. But. But I wonder if the city of San Francisco, though, is such a great example of the failure of leadership and the failure of the ruling class to be vested in the society from which they’re taking their riches. In a normal society, the rich people would say, Hey, I live here, my kids live here, you can’t do that shit. You know, get off the sidewalk. We’re going to pay. We’re going to make the San Francisco Police Department the most efficient and highly endowed police department in the world. Yeah, No.

Chris Moritz [01:54:00] Crime. Exactly.

Tucker [01:54:01] The Saudis did that. Why can’t. Why don’t the tech.

Chris Moritz [01:54:04] Well, because we became a one party state, right? So when Steve Cooley was D.A. of Los Angeles, you know, he was not about politics. In fact, he says the the the job of a D.A. is not to, you know, kind of bring politics into the into the administration of justice. It is to go after bad guys and prosecute bad guys and send them away and make any safer. Yeah.

Tucker [01:54:32] Using the laws, the elected legislators.

Chris Moritz [01:54:34] Right. And in fact, at a local, you know, this was also the case even in San Francisco back in like the 2000 and the predecessor to Kamala Harris, a guy named Talent N who?

Tucker [01:54:47] Terence Hallinan.

Chris Moritz [01:54:48] Yeah, right. And he he was a liberal, but also like one with a sense of like, duty to do the job. But I think what happened is sometime around like again around the tutelage of thousands when Gavin. Newsom and Kamala Harris really came into into their, you know, into their to their power structures and especially San Francisco. It became not about let’s make this city better, let’s make this safer. It’s about how do I get my next promotion.

Tucker [01:55:21] You know, term limits in California, which I supported, were supposed to fix all this. And they seem to have made it worse. Do you understand? Again, this is one of those paradoxes that I don’t fully understand. I just noticed.

Chris Moritz [01:55:35] But I don’t know. I mean, they didn’t work.

Tucker [01:55:38] I think we can say that, right?

Chris Moritz [01:55:40] I mean, clearly, it’s clearly something’s not working. Right? Again? Yeah.

Tucker [01:55:46] Could you remember that? Maybe you don’t remember, but maybe you’re too young. But, like, your moms came to California and were like, okay, this is going to make legislators much more responsive. They can’t live forever in these dumb jobs, but it seems like they have lived forever in these dumb jobs. They’ve just traded up jobs. They just keep moving around. You know.

Chris Moritz [01:56:03] I’ve also heard it’s compared to like the fact that we have a full time legislature versus Texas, that as a part time legislature and that has a moderating effect. I think I think that’s like a good analog for comparison. I mean, Sacramento is out of control. There’s supermajorities, Democrats, supermajorities in both houses. There’s not a single Republican in any any administrative, you know, officer level position in the state. I think the last one was maybe insurance commissioner. Right.

Tucker [01:56:36] And there are no statewide Republican. Correct. Officeholders.

Chris Moritz [01:56:40] That’s right. Yeah, there haven’t been for years.

Tucker [01:56:44] And the minority Republican minority is so small in the legislature legislative bodies that they’re irrelevant.

Chris Moritz [01:56:50] And our Republicans are weak. I mean, Meg Whitman was pathetic. She ran. She spent $150 million of her own money to run for governor in 2010, and she lost overwhelmingly to Jerry Brown.

Tucker [01:57:05] Yeah, I went to her. I went to her house in Atherton. Speaking of Atherton, at that time, what is it you would think that the Republican officeholders in the state, the few who remain, would be even clearer eyed and more resolute, but they seemed even more cooked. They were?

Chris Moritz [01:57:22] Yes, I would say yes, I would say so. I mean, the California Republican Party basically doesn’t exist. If you want to run as a as as you cannot run as a Republican. I mean, for instance, Rick Russo ran for mayor recently. He was, you know, well known Republican, but he had to.

Tucker [01:57:43] Switch in Los in Los Angeles against Karen.

Chris Moritz [01:57:45] Bass. Yeah, against Karen Bass. And he switched to the Democrats party for to facilitate, you know, the run and give him a chance. He still lost.

Tucker [01:57:57] And there’s Karen Bass been a pretty great mayor.

Chris Moritz [01:58:01] I mean this the board of supervisors in L.A. have you know, a lot more power in some ways than the than than the mayor itself. You know, it’s kind of it’s the mayor of Los Angeles does not have the power of like the mayor of New York City. But, you know, I mean, Karen Bass did what she she she has done the job she was tasked for, which is to have a black woman as mayor and fulfill an identity politics quota, in my opinion.

Tucker [01:58:38] Is Gavin Newsom, who survived a recall effort. Pretty serious, look like a pretty serious recall effort. At least two terms now, Governor. Is he popular?

Chris Moritz [01:58:51] You know, I’m not I haven’t seen like any any recent polling on that.

Tucker [01:58:57] Have you ever been at dinner and heard someone say, Man, I’m just glad Gavin Newsom runs our state?

Chris Moritz [01:59:01] No. No.

Tucker [01:59:03] So in a one party state doesn’t really matter. Like everyone’s Brezhnev, at a certain point, it doesn’t really matter.

Chris Moritz [01:59:08] Exactly.

Tucker [01:59:08] Whether people like what they’re getting. They’re getting it.

Chris Moritz [01:59:11] Yeah. Yeah. The only thing that matters is the Democratic primary. Of course. And there is like internecine divisions within the party, just like in China or big time. Right. And in fact, it’s kind of interesting that, you know, Gavin is not like on the hard left of the Democratic Party, California. I actually in some ways think he’s probably much more reasonable and moderate than than he, you know, has portrayed himself to be.

Tucker [01:59:43] I think, as someone who knows him. I can confirm that. Yeah, it is true. Yeah. He’s Gavin Newsom is, I think, responsible in large part for what’s happening in California. There’s no excuse for that. He’ll be held. You know, he’ll be held accountable for that on some level in some life. However, just in point of fact, he is not some crazy left winger. Look, I’ll be honest with you.

Chris Moritz [02:00:04] I like him personally.

Tucker [02:00:05] Yeah, everyone does. Yeah.

Chris Moritz [02:00:06] I really do. And I really wish, you know, he was a phenomenal governor. I think, you know, if we do have to live in a one party state, at least our leaders should be, you know, really competent within the machine. And I think he had a lot of potential and certainly, you know, but but he’s also a slave and captured by by this movement and this this leftism that has has has cast this Powell over California.

Tucker [02:00:39] He’s weak inside, there’s no doubt. Yeah. So can I ask, like there are still very powerful business interests, mostly the people making AI, planning our enslavement. Why don’t those people get together and just, like, pay for a good government?

Chris Moritz [02:00:54] Well, I will tell you that I have heard, at least from folks in the VC world, that there is a lot of. Quiet support even in this cycle for for Trump.

Tucker [02:01:09] Well, that’s true. There is. And there’s some loud support. I mean, Marc Andreessen is the biggest VC in the state has come out for Trump publicly. So that’s good. But I just mean within the state of California, why don’t think as long as you’re going to have a corrupt one party state, as long as is going to be Guatemala? Okay, fine. That’s what we are now. Why don’t the oligarchs get together and just say we’re at least going to have, I don’t know, nice roads and functional schools and your daughter’s not going to get raped on the way to CVS? Like, why not just do.

Chris Moritz [02:01:41] I think it’s not. It’s because it’s because these nobles do not have noblesse oblige.

Tucker [02:01:48] Now we’re cooking with gas. That’s exact. Okay. Can you expand on that? Yeah.

Chris Moritz [02:01:53] So. So the idea, you know, for societies that are stratified by class and where there is especially, you know, an aristocracy that has a political, you know, head, Germany as well as social power, there was a sense, I think, in those kind of societies in the past, even frankly, you know, within the United States, that there were certain responsibilities as a noble to your your county, to your to your city, to your to your, you know, land and so forth.

Tucker [02:02:30] To your nation, to.

Chris Moritz [02:02:31] Your nation, of course. But today, we have a situation where there’s a disconnect from that, and it’s entirely about the self and its nihilism.

Tucker [02:02:43] They all wear t shirts and live on boats, right? They’re totally.

Chris Moritz [02:02:47] Completely removed from the bad schools, from the bad roads, from the crime. They have private police force basically.

Tucker [02:02:58] Because they’re not Christians. That’s the actual difference. If they’re not Christian, they’re not believing Christians. And I believe in Christian feels a sense of obligation to the poor and the people over whom he exerts authority to the people below him. I mean, that’s just part of the religion. Well.

Chris Moritz [02:03:14] So like when we talk about neo feudalism and maybe how that’s not a perfect analog, I would add in support of your approach is, well, at least in feudalism, they believe in God.

Tucker [02:03:24] One that had certain obligations.

Chris Moritz [02:03:26] You structured the entire society, right?

Tucker [02:03:28] Well, is a separate conversation, but I was probably 40 years old before. I’m interested in history. I realized that the thousand years between the fall of Rome and the Renaissance were referred to as, quote, the Dark Ages. And there’s sort of very little conversation about that among people who specialize in European history. And it’s like, why? Why are we dismissing a thousand year period as the dark ages? Because actually, it wasn’t that dark. It’s actually these were not societies built on, you know, debt, slavery. These were societies built on Christianity. And that’s kind of why they’ve been dismissed as as dark and unworthy of further study or, you know, conversation. We have nothing to learn from the Dark Ages. And that’s all like a huge lie. Yeah. Surely they had a much more enlightened ruling class than we have.

Chris Moritz [02:04:15] I would say that, you know, if you’re going to make historical comparisons, you like, let’s say, are we in a new dark age? You could argue that, you know, the dark the so-called dark ages was characterized by a separation from Hellenism and classical ideas and and literacy. Right. And so I think you could argue, frankly, that modern America and modern society as a whole. And that’s especially true in California, is also disconnected from its history. It is forgetting its history purposefully.

Tucker [02:04:55] I know.

Chris Moritz [02:04:55] And we’re also becoming, ironically, were we are subject to more information than we can absorb. And so we absorb nothing. And maybe that’s a kind of new literacy.

Tucker [02:05:08] I think that’s exactly right. And I think good weather plays a huge role in this places with really good weather. You see this on Australia as well, allow people to sort of drift along in a state of content numbness.

Chris Moritz [02:05:22] Yeah.

Tucker [02:05:22] And they don’t ever they’re sort of content with, you know, an ever declining standard of living and an ever shrinking basket of freedoms at this point in California of the right to have an abortion, that’s kind of your only right. And they just they’re so because it’s 75 and sunny, they don’t complain. You know what I mean? Whereas in, say, Romania.

Chris Moritz [02:05:44] Yeah.

Tucker [02:05:45] They might, they might complain.

Chris Moritz [02:05:46] Yeah. You know, it’ll be very interesting to see if they’re ever, if things get so bad that it catalyzes action by the voters. One of these prosecutors I talked to from Alameda County, we were discussing the broader implications of how we got to the place that we did. And she says she said to me, she said, I blame you. And I said, what? That I blame. And when she said you, I mean, the uneducated voter. Right. The the voters that are are susceptible to the marketing gimmicks of our of our politicians that reframe legalizing theft as safe neighborhoods and schools act. And this kind of complacency has resulted, you know, in in a significant way to the to the degradation of the state.

Tucker [02:06:46] Well, it’s just look that we’re this is just a dot on a continuum. This is a moment in time. And all every bad thing that you described has been made possible by liberal whites.

Chris Moritz [02:06:57] Yes. And yes, they’re bad.

Tucker [02:06:59] They’re decadent attitudes. And California, California’s a Latin American country, basically now with some recognizable Latin American country problems like rule by cartel and corrupt politics in the rest one party state. But at some point, it’s going to be characterized by another feature of Latin American society, which is fascist interludes. We’re going to have like a military junta or some strongman take over California and all these new immigrants. They’re not rich white liberals. Actually, they probably don’t think that should be legal. Right. And you’re going to get some caudillo in charge of that state is going to put an end to all this nonsense, you.

Chris Moritz [02:07:32] Know, and maybe that will not be so bad.

Tucker [02:07:34] I mean, it’s preferable to what we have now. I mean, would you rather have Gavin Newsom or Kelly or. But Kelly Exactly.

Chris Moritz [02:07:40] That’s a that’s not a hard choice.

Tucker [02:07:42] Exactly. It’s our hard choice. So that’s very different from the state that you and I grew up in. Completely different, which was a basically an egalitarian state where even rich people, like I grew up in a rich part of the state, and we didn’t feel like we were a class apart, that everyone else was a serf. You know what I mean? And drive through the Central Valley feeling like I have nothing in common with these people. I feel like, well, they’re Californians just like me.

Chris Moritz [02:08:05] That’s over. You know, I wanted to mention something.

Tucker [02:08:08] We’re in. Don’t you think? We’re in the chaotic middle period between one system and a new system?

Chris Moritz [02:08:14] Yes, for sure. In fact, Victor Davis has right. Victor Davis Hanson, who was very kind in helping me with some of the research for my book, made some incredible insights on the comparison of the late Roman Empire, really the period between 376 A.D. and 476 A.D. and what we’re experiencing now in California and that period. And I just say it.

Tucker [02:08:43] So thank you for saying that, because the fifth century is when we think of the end of Rome. But we forget that there was at least a century preceding that where it was like on the way to the fall, of course.

Chris Moritz [02:08:53] Yeah. And it was characterized by things that are eerily similar to what we’re seeing in California. So, of course, there is the erosion of borders. There is the influx of of migrants about, I think like 1 or 2 million from Germanic and Huns into Rome, not assimilated. Breakdown of law at the county levels. A disconnect from the capital.

Tucker [02:09:23] And a lot of those immigrants in Rome went into law enforcement, one of the legions.

Chris Moritz [02:09:27] That’s right. That’s right. Yeah. And and there was also cultural factors where the elite were Hansson calls this. It’s called Fluxus. And it was this notion that that the elite at that time were embracing decadence, cult religions. Hello, Trends. Right. Of course. And and other sort of values that were antithetical to the martial values that built the Roman the Roman Republic.

Tucker [02:10:05] Narcissism. And Kamala Harris, wherever the hell she’s calling herself now, is just the is the poster girl for that.

Chris Moritz [02:10:13] She is the personification of everything that is bad about California. And it’s not because she did all that awful of things. I get it for you. She actually doesn’t have that much of a track record. Right. California. But that’s the point, isn’t it? She is a she is just a husk. She is a face. Yeah. And she is the right face that qualified for, you know, hit the the the, you know, the quotas that are. Are necessary in California to advance. And therefore, we see in her this shell of a person.

Tucker [02:10:50] Always talking about herself.

Chris Moritz [02:10:52] Of course, that’s all she she only even she thinks about rape.

Tucker [02:10:55] But it’s always your.

Chris Moritz [02:10:56] Books called Smart Crime. No.

Tucker [02:11:01] Can you please use air quotes around the word book?

Chris Moritz [02:11:03] Yeah. Well, it was actually was ghostwritten. And you think and and and and. And plagiarized books.

Tucker [02:11:14] Ghostwritten and plagiarized. So even her ghostwriter was lazy. Yeah. A mess. No, but it’s so. It’s so perfect. It’s just this Vesuvius of banalities about herself and. Yeah. Me, me, me, I this, I that. It’s like, you know, if you’re going to talk about yourself, there should be some requirement to be interesting. Yeah. Yeah, but it’s never interesting. Do you know what I mean? It’s always whining about microaggressions and I way, you know, freedom, and it’s just like. It’s so banal, you can just barely stand it. I would rather have an interesting dictator. You know.

Chris Moritz [02:11:50] The chapter, my book on her, I call The Banality of Evil. Yeah, well, it’s perfect. And it’s the sense that these like these actions or inactions, rather, over time that seem incremental lead to outcomes that actually produce incredible evil and violence. Exactly. And though she just not pulling the trigger. Right. She’s not even passing some of the laws I hope I can get to, which are even more insane than what I’ve already told you. But she nevertheless is part of this machine. And she’s also tied to the Gettys, by the way. I just incidentally. They all they all are Pelosi’s, Gettys, Newsome. Brown’s like it’s all the same. Willie Brown, too, of course. And so there’s nothing there are no accomplishments to speak of. And nothing changed when she was vice president.

Tucker [02:12:48] No, but this is what happens when girls become dictators. They kill, they build nothing. They create nothing. You don’t even get, like, big, pretty buildings out of it. And then they kill you by passive aggression.

Chris Moritz [02:12:59] Exactly. Yeah.

Tucker [02:13:01] Yeah. I’d much rather. Yeah, I’m not to make a gender thing out of it, but if we’re going to have a dictator, at least, you know, he should be wearing a cape. Yeah. And building, you know, coliseum or something. I don’t know. They can’t even build light rail. And I’m trying not to use the F-word in that darn state, so. Okay, well, let’s get to loss. Yeah, I’ve got to stop.

Chris Moritz [02:13:21] So sidetracked. So after Prop 57, 2016, that passes. We we jump ahead to 2020, where I think everything broke down across the world, but especially in the United States and especially in California. And as a result of the George Floyd riots, which, by the way, all of the law enforcement officers I’ve talked to who were there and were there for the 1992 riots say these two cannot even be closely compared. Gangsters in L.A. during the George Floyd riots were laughing their asses off because they didn’t give a scuse me a shit about George Floyd at all. They everyone knew he was just a.

Tucker [02:14:04] Some armed robber guys who are fans of the New Revolution.

Chris Moritz [02:14:07] Exactly. And by the way, the guy who robbed us on the police report, it says, like any drugs or you’re on any drugs and he writes in like crayon fentanyl.

Tucker [02:14:19] He’s on for.

Chris Moritz [02:14:20] Yeah yeah he’s on fan Everyone’s on fentanyl. In the criminal world it’s like salt.

Tucker [02:14:25] On.

Chris Moritz [02:14:25] Fentanyl. Yeah, it’s like salts. Well he was taking it because he had been stabbed like a year or two before and so he takes over the pain and to stay level when he’s doing carpentry and it’s so soul killing.

Tucker [02:14:39] Have you ever taken opioids, like after surgery or something?

Chris Moritz [02:14:42] I mean, I love laughing gas. I had that once.

Tucker [02:14:44] Have laughing gas is a totally different thing. I’m not defending nitrous, but I will say it’s a totally different gig. But, you know, any opioid drug has the same. It just takes your soul away.

Chris Moritz [02:14:55] Yeah, well, that’s what we see. That’s why it’s the zombie apocalypse. Yeah, right. That’s it. But. But so. So after the riots and there was a momentous push for, again, I call it crime equity legislation. And this took the form of two laws that have been absolutely devastating. And I think that they probably will ultimately get thrown out by the Supreme Court because they’re so egregious. The first is called the Racial Justice Act of 2020, and the Racial Justice Act of 2020 allows defendants and it’s retroactive to challenge their convictions based on the presence. Of bias or racial animus by, let’s say, anyone involved in the trial or on the police side that doesn’t have to have any bearing on whether or not the evidence supports their guilt at all. These can be guilty people. The evidence proved beyond a doubt.

Tucker [02:16:01] What if there was a white racist involved? At any level.

Chris Moritz [02:16:04] They can get their convictions thrown out under the Racial Justice Act or reduce significantly. And this happened in the city of Antioch. It’s called the Antioch Texting scandal, which four young black gang members were on trial for attempted murder and murder and very clear that they did it. They were a gang enhancements were applied to them, which would mean that they were going to face a lot more jail time. But at the same time, it came out that the police officers in Antioch were texting racist, so-called racist messages to each other in private. Not, you know, not as part of the job, not relating to even their their, you know, involvement in the case, but just about these defendants. And when this came out, the judge presiding over the case utilized the Racial Justice Act and threw out all the gang enhancements against so.

Tucker [02:17:07] They had known or killed anybody because the cops were mean.

Chris Moritz [02:17:09] Let me tell you how much worse it gets. Defense attorneys can use statistical evidence, nebulous statistical evidence of racial disparity to support the case and satisfied their burden of proof that there is racial injustice. So, for instance, if a jurisdiction is applying gang enhancements in greater proportion to black, you know, gang members and to some other group.

Tucker [02:17:38] Way gang members.

Chris Moritz [02:17:39] Yeah, whatever those are. And the under the Racial Justice Act, these statistical differences can be entered into consideration by the judge and whether or not to apply the R.J..

Tucker [02:18:00] That’s just like the end of civilization.

Chris Moritz [02:18:02] It gets worse. The same year they the Sacramento passed AB 3076 AB 37 the. I took away the ability of prosecutors to apply peremptory challenges to prospective jurors on the basis of bias. So, for instance, up until AB 3070, you could if if a juror would say, you know, my son was a had been involved with I had been arrested or I have a negative opinion of police, so on and so forth, this would be a cause by which a prosecutor could use a peremptory challenge to remove the juror. Well, under AB 37 D if this juror is a member of a protected group, which by the way, includes gender identity.

Tucker [02:18:06] So, like training criminal?

Chris Moritz [02:18:08] Yeah. Well. Well, no, no. Trainee jurors.

Tucker [02:18:10] Okay. Yeah.

Chris Moritz [02:18:27] But but the idea of of like bringing the Han Chinese into Xinjiang to do effectively erase those people. Is that really any different than what’s happening when 12 million or 7 million people have come across the U.S. southern border with impunity and are going to most likely probably become citizens unless unless Trump, God willing, wins and and reverse that. I mean, it’s times are very dark. Tucker And I don’t know, like if there is a positive message to be made, except I, I pray that our leadership, at least the federal level, will right the ship. And perhaps California over time can come back to some semblance of what it once was because it is the defacement of a grand work of art.

Tucker [02:19:20] It is a it is a work of art. In Los Angeles and San Francisco, two of the prettiest cities. In fact, I would say the prettiest cities we have by far, both of them in their very different ways. But it is destroying art and irreplaceable art. And as a birthright Californian who’s living in his great grandparents house, you’re one of the few in L.A. who can say that. Like, what’s your plan? Are you going to stay?

Chris Moritz [02:19:45] You know, like you’ve you’ve been asked this question, right? And you’ve said, like, America is my home. Like I’m not living it. I feel that way about California.

Tucker [02:19:56] They said they’re not your stamp.

Chris Moritz [02:19:58] I mean, unless I get like another home invasion, that that might like, catalyze it. But I. I feel very tied to the land. Like, good, you know, should. And I don’t feel like it should be just surrender because some assholes in San Francisco are have decided to spread crime equity across the state. You know it’s like I will defend will defend our home will defend our castle. And that is I think you know what’s one duty is to your your ancestors.

Tucker [02:20:39] Who had guns. So please buy one.

Chris Moritz [02:20:40] Yes. Good. Call me. Of course. Thank you. Of course.